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robertwinter Site Admin
Joined: 06 Nov 2006 Posts: 12
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2000 12:01 am Post subject: Pigs will REALLY be flying! |
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Here's hoping that Gene proceeds with Kingpin! |
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Latecomer
Joined: 06 Nov 2006 Posts: 22
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:34 am Post subject: |
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Well this is a surprise, and a most welcome one at that. I don't plan to be latecomer this time, that's for certain!
Kingpin #123 for me |
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Bertl
Joined: 06 Nov 2006 Posts: 29 Location: Austria
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:58 am Post subject: |
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A Kingpin production run would be great! When there will be the board set re-produced, this makes hope that there will be also some more BBB's see the day of light???
This time, i am sure not to be too late ordering a KP (still on waiting list for a BBB but still in good hope to get one finally).
Just wondering if Gene will buy or "rent" a KP to have a model when a something is unclear. (TOG told me, they often needed Gene's BBB proto at the beginning of production)
Brgds
Norbert _________________ If there is a chance, i'll take it. |
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pinsane
Joined: 06 Nov 2006 Posts: 1 Location: Orange County, California
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 8:55 am Post subject: |
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Wow Robert,
You're really fast!
steve SDTM |
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KP93
Joined: 06 Nov 2006 Posts: 4
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cerberus
Joined: 06 Nov 2006 Posts: 1 Location: Northeast
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for hosting again Robert! This is incredible news! Any mention on production numbers? I would send my deposit in today if I could!
Harold |
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awarner
Joined: 06 Nov 2006 Posts: 20
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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My guess on production numbers would be similar to BBB, but maybe more. I'm going to look at the two forums before I go up there in 2 weeks and get some good questions for KingPin.
My real question is with Gene over by $XXX,XXX.00 on BBB, how much will this cost?
-Al- _________________ Former BBB #95
Pins and Vids #4, A New Hoax DVD, Available NOW at www.pinsandvids.com for only $12.00 plus shipping. |
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Lloyd Olson
Joined: 06 Nov 2006 Posts: 5 Location: Hopkins, Minnesota
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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If this project moves forward, will Gene make the header for on top the backbox too ?
Best wishes this gets made for all the Kingpin fans !
LTG |
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robertwinter Site Admin
Joined: 06 Nov 2006 Posts: 12
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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 6:00 am Post subject: |
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awarner wrote: | My real question is with Gene over by $XXX,XXX.00 on BBB, how much will this cost? |
I've *heard* that Gene is losing $1K-1.5K per BBB. That said, I'd imagine KP would sell for at LEAST $5500. |
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BBB94
Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 48
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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 6:28 am Post subject: |
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Gene was losing about $1,500 per BBB many months ago. Maybe that has increased further. $4,500 + $1,500 = $6,000 + new boards and other non-surplus parts + profit.......I'd guess KP would be more in the $7,000 to $8,000 range.
I hope I can play KP sometime. Might have to try getting to CAX (?) if that's the only show they visit. I know that there are people that feel that KP is more fun than BBB (better rules and shots I suppose). I personally don't care for the mobster/gangster theme and doubt that the art work (in spite of Stan's talent) would appeal to me. But until I see one in person and have a few (quick low scoring ) games on one, who knows. |
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KP93
Joined: 06 Nov 2006 Posts: 4
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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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I think they will be able to seure more pre-orders for KP than they did BBB pre-orders. Gene has a proven track record with BBB, even the naysayers have to admit that BBB has been a great success. I think if KP happens, you will see more people jumping onto the bandwagon. A larger production run could help hold down the per unit cost??? Although, I do suspect it will be higher than BBB was.
Bob S |
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blubboman
Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 8 Location: Lebanon, In
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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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I agree. Gene has proven his drive and desire to make a true collector's pinball machine and could probably double his orders for KP depending on price. Even if it is significantly more than BBB, these pinballs are different animals than a Stern production game. They are worth more given the desire to meet collector's demands for high quality and of course the production quantity is lower. Anyway, I'll pay more for KP than I did for BBB. _________________ BBB#37 - KP#37????? |
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pinball-sales
Joined: 08 Nov 2006 Posts: 1
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 12:06 pm Post subject: Kingpin |
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I have never seen a Kingpin, but I think it will take longer than BBB to complete, new boardset is a big ask, ROHS for our Europe collectors would also cost more with led displays etc.
I would think the price would be more like $7,000 US.
It would take a production team of former capcom guys, Hardware and software engineer which would add to the cost.
I wish them all the best and hope any new capcom games are made. |
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Kerry Richard
Joined: 09 Nov 2006 Posts: 4 Location: Danville
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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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I had heard the software wasn't complete on KP.
Is that why you suggest a Software Engineer / Team too?
Kerry Richard #111 |
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sellenoff
Joined: 09 Nov 2006 Posts: 8
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Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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Kerry Richard wrote: | I had heard the software wasn't complete on KP.
Is that why you suggest a Software Engineer / Team too?
Kerry Richard #111 |
It's a bit rough but is complete from my experience with it. Also, Gene wouldn't need a software engineer or team, as I, as well as others on this forum (well BBB forum anyway) have offered to help with that, so that expense if even necessary would be minimal if Gene decided to go that route.
-Steve |
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