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pinballlew
Joined: 17 May 2007 Posts: 29
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:11 pm Post subject: Number of rings? |
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I tried searching but can't find the correct number of rings. Those of you that have your games and ordered rings. How many did you use. Thanks -Mike |
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awarner
Joined: 02 Aug 2005 Posts: 558 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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I went with 6, that's the number that will fit evenly between the slits before you run out of space. _________________ Pins and Vids #4 - A New Hoax DVD, Available NOW at www.pinsandvids.com for only $12.00 plus shipping. |
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sellenoff
Joined: 07 Aug 2005 Posts: 101
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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awarner wrote: | I went with 6, that's the number that will fit evenly between the slits before you run out of space. |
How is it that the picture of the proto game shows something like 13-15 pieces IIRC? |
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awarner
Joined: 02 Aug 2005 Posts: 558 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 5:08 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, you could put a lot of rings on there. At $10.00 a piece, 6 worked for me.
-Al- _________________ Pins and Vids #4 - A New Hoax DVD, Available NOW at www.pinsandvids.com for only $12.00 plus shipping. |
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sellenoff
Joined: 07 Aug 2005 Posts: 101
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 11:23 am Post subject: |
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awarner wrote: | Yeah, you could put a lot of rings on there. At $10.00 a piece, 6 worked for me.
-Al- |
Well, now I'm confused..
You said 6 was the number before you run out of space, but then you said you could fit a lot more? So which is it? |
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awarner
Joined: 02 Aug 2005 Posts: 558 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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A picture would work well here. You can put a bunch of rings on the tube. If you are putting one between each of the slits, 6-7 will do it. BY running out of room, I meant that when you get back to where the main ramp goes up, you run out of room before you run out of green tube ramp. You can't put any behind there. Six worked for me, but you could double or triple up and/or not pay attention to the slits so you could use as many as you want. I think 6 is a minimum number. _________________ Pins and Vids #4 - A New Hoax DVD, Available NOW at www.pinsandvids.com for only $12.00 plus shipping. |
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metallik
Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Posts: 99
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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Yes.. they'd just be closer together. I don't think more than 7 would look good, though. |
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tcat
Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Posts: 30
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:17 am Post subject: |
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I probably missed the post on ordering, but how do we actually "order" these rings? Thanks! '
Harold
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awarner
Joined: 02 Aug 2005 Posts: 558 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:35 am Post subject: |
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You haven't missed it. Gene offered them as pre-orders for people picking up. He planned to order 3Xs as many and sell them when they came in. I'm sure Kim or TOG will let you know when they are available.
-Al- _________________ Pins and Vids #4 - A New Hoax DVD, Available NOW at www.pinsandvids.com for only $12.00 plus shipping. |
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Cliffy
Joined: 18 Jun 2007 Posts: 25 Location: Bay Area Cal
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:00 am Post subject: |
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Per the one prototype that had them there are supposed to be 15 rings. Our kit uses 15 rings. They are slightly larger outside diameter (better proportion to the tube) and laser cut to fit the form of the ramp. Our spacing template guarantees perfect spacing every time. The two main obstacles were the ramp and the spinner but we finally nailed it _________________ Cliffy
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jadziedzic
Joined: 02 Aug 2005 Posts: 151 Location: Nashua, NH USA
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:17 am Post subject: |
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Cliffy, then I take it the picture on the pinbits site of the tube with a gap in the rings near the back end was before your tweaks for the spinner and such? Might want to update the picture if that's indeed the case.
So when are you going to have this stuff in stock? Everything on the Web site is shown as out of stock ... My BBB feels nekked
Tony _________________ Joseph "Tony" Dziedzic
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Cliffy
Joined: 18 Jun 2007 Posts: 25 Location: Bay Area Cal
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:38 am Post subject: |
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Precisely, Tony Thats a preproduction shot but if you click on another link he has it shows them all. Martin is fit to be tied about attaching the rings. Bless his heart I personally see NO problem with you guys using a tiny dab of silicone on the bottom of the rings. Martin will laser cut a small notch on the bottom inside diameter to accomdate the silicone. This will make it practically invisible. This is really the only hangup right now so as soon as he cuts a set and gets positive feedback from a tester they will be ready to go. We were trying vnyl dots for a friction fit, tape srips, wedges, rods, but in the end we are sttling on the simple silicone approach. What *I* would like to do is install the set myself on Kerry's game and take pics at every step so we can have a pictorial installation guide. We want to make these dummy proof and I'm the perfect dummy for the test
I can't tell you how strongly I agree with you on the nekkid part Honest! Whenever we took the rings back off the game just did NOT look right! Even moreso on the pop bmpers! _________________ Cliffy
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Cliffy
Joined: 18 Jun 2007 Posts: 25 Location: Bay Area Cal
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:57 am Post subject: |
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and here's the pic with ALL rings on
_________________ Cliffy
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Walter
Joined: 02 Aug 2005 Posts: 15 Location: San Jose, CA
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:40 am Post subject: |
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Cliffy / Martin,
These rings look great!
One question though - Did you guys look into ball hangups?
I had heard that was a concern with the orignal prototype rings and I've personally "stuck" a ball at the tube exit right up against the left purple wire ball return.
A quick thwap on the side of the cabinet easily frees the ball. It's hard to tell if the rings would work the same way. With the spacing you have in mind, would a ball wedge between rings or stick on top?
Thank for everything. I can't wait to pick up a full kit to trick out my machine.
Walter
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Cliffy
Joined: 18 Jun 2007 Posts: 25 Location: Bay Area Cal
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:05 am Post subject: |
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Yes the ball can certainly get stuck and as you discovered the ball can get stuck on the tube even without the rings! We proposed a slanted sheet to go over the top of the rings but every single person said they would rather not have a guard lke that. All said that they would rather pull the glass and free the ball that way.
Now, keep this in mind too, when you put Martin's dead drop foam behind the two green targets to either side of the ramp you will SIGNIFICANTLY reduce, if not eliminate, air balls that could get up there in the first place.
The only airballs we got were off those targets and once we put the foam behind them we never once got another air ball. _________________ Cliffy
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