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BigBangJoe
Joined: 02 Aug 2005 Posts: 134 Location: Gent, Belgium
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:16 pm Post subject: Where's the post about the playfield colors? |
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I remember that someone once wrote a very long post about how correct the colors on the playfield were compared to the Pantone color numbers specified by the designer/artist. I always forget names and faces so I don't remember who it was.
I cannot find that post anymore, so I suspect it was originally posted on the Bearcave forum?
What I actually want to know: is there a way to convert the Pantone color into a non-proprietary format so I can use it to mix paint/Photoshop/whatever? I have googled for this, but it seems that such a conversion tool doesn't exist. I'm especially interested in the fluorescent green (but without the fluo effect obviously), and the dark purple on the side art.
Or maybe there's a method that I can do myself, for example using a good digital camera or a scanner or...?
I don't know much about this, so any help is appreciated.
thanks,
Joe |
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jadziedzic
Joined: 02 Aug 2005 Posts: 151 Location: Nashua, NH USA
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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Here's a good starting point: http://www.pinballpal.com/colors/colorcue.php
It describes how to use a Pantone "ColorCue" device to determine (among other things) the actual color (in sRGB, iLab, etc. formats). That's probably the most accurate approach you could use, lacking the actual Pantone PMS color information.
I've seen ColorCues sell for about $100 on eBay (that's where I got mine). If you send me a list of a few colors you'd like me to measure I can do that for you.
Tony _________________ Joseph "Tony" Dziedzic
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BBB93
Joined: 06 Aug 2005 Posts: 142
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:50 pm Post subject: Re: Where's the post about the playfield colors? |
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BigBangJoe wrote: | I remember that someone once wrote a very long post about how correct the colors on the playfield were compared to the Pantone color numbers specified by the designer/artist. I always forget names and faces so I don't remember who it was.
I cannot find that post anymore, so I suspect it was originally posted on the Bearcave forum?
thanks,
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I'm afraid that may have been my post. It was originally posted to the BC forum, but it is also burried on this forum as well. I think some of the information you want about the Pantone colors is in there. Check here and scroll down.
http://www.robertwinter.com/pinball/bbb/forum/viewtopic.php?p=512&highlight=#512
There are several ways to convert Pantone color to the RGB or the CMYK "equivelent", but the results will very considerably. Some colors can be matched very well, but other conversions will be very disappointing. The color gamut that you can acheive is limited. Also, you will not be able to match the flourescent green at all, to get the dayglo effect you would have to use the spot color that is UV reactive. Hope this is what you were thinking of and that it helps somewhat.
Bob S
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pinsane
Joined: 05 Aug 2005 Posts: 61 Location: Orange County, CA
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BBB94
Joined: 02 Aug 2005 Posts: 407 Location: WI, USA
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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Here is the Pantone info that I have compiled:
Red=032C
Purple=269C
Dark Blue=3015C
Light Blue=312C
Light Green=802U
Yellow=Yellow C
Black=Process Black (C?)
White=(process?)White (C?)
Dark Green~334C (50% light green and 50% dark blue?)
The RGB and CMYK conversions for these vary widely from source to source. Although I tried to get close conversions for a while, I gave up since I didn't have to get too close, since in the end the vendors would be using the "spot" Pantone colors.
Tony, if you have the time and inclination I'd love a Color Cue readings for all the cabinet colors - the ones listed in my above list. I'd also be curious about the reading it shows for the yellow/red half-tone orange in the logo.
If anyone is doing anything that "requires" you getting a real close color match consider getting a monitor and printer calibration kit/system like the ColorVision PrintFix Pro 2 Suite:
http://www.colorvision.com/product-pp-pfps.php
$350 (after rebate ending 7/31/07) from:
http://www.calibration-direct.com/prodprintfixsuitepro.html
Pantone also makes calibration products.
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BBB94
Joined: 02 Aug 2005 Posts: 407 Location: WI, USA
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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:49 am Post subject: |
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Here are some conversion sites that I found and had been using. Some of the colors seem to be way off, like a Pantone blue might be shown as brown, etc. Nothing even close to all the available colors are listed, but its a start.
I think this was the (overall) most accurate site:
http://www.logoorange.com/color/color-codes-chart.php
This one I wasn't too impressed with, but I didn't have the time I would have liked to really figure things out back when I was looking into this before:
http://blog.indika.net.id/html-color-codes-matching-chart-pantone-cmyk-rgb-hex/
If you find these useful you should save them as Pantone seems pretty protective of this type of info - some other sites have been shut down.
Also, in my original post above I'm pretty sure the C stands for Coated and U stands for uncoated. I've never researched what the real difference is between the coated and uncoated Pantone colors |
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BigBangJoe
Joined: 02 Aug 2005 Posts: 134 Location: Gent, Belgium
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Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 5:07 am Post subject: |
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Thanks a LOT for all the detailed and useful information |
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