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awarner · Joined: 02 Aug 2005 Posts: 558 Location: Atlanta, GA

If Gene was to produce new boardsets, the ability produce more BBBs would be a lot easier. How would you feel if Gene was planning to make more machines? Let me add that Gene has not made any comments to this effect, I'm just curious about people's opinions.

latecomer · Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:34 am Post subject:

Some of all of the above.

Investment? Well, I bought a game to play, and hopefully a great game! Unless Gene rolls out 300 extra quickly (ie like Stern can with TSPP or LOTR) then I doubt there will be too much hurt anyway.

I doubt the next 300 of either KP or BBB would be anything under the $7K that is likely for KP - so the $4.5K investment is definitely not hurt too much. Unless this was expected to be a profit maker, I don't think the average buyer would worry too much if the game is worth closer to $7K because new ones are that much and still rare, and still having to wait.

I suspect the $300K to Gene is in his mind a small price to pay for the great thing he did for pinball, and recovering it won't be a priority (I might be wrong). But if he can do it with a combination of KP and BBB, or just KP alone, well more power to him, he and Georgianna and Kim et al deserve whatever going on with the Capcom revival might bring them..

And frankly, it means there's gonna be part supplies into the future! What were **you**planning to do for BBB spares in five years, huh? Driver boards, switch boards, playfield parts - it gotta be good for all of us, who cares if more BBB's mean prices don't go ballistic for the original repros. hey, maybe the first 183 machines will be seen as something special anyway???
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BBB93 · Joined: 06 Aug 2005 Posts: 142

Well said Nick, you pretty well summed up my feelings on it. I would not begrudge anyone who was able to buy a remake and I would certainly would not begrudge Gene if he was able to recoup some of his loss. The resale value is somewhat of a moot point to me, because I don't see myself ever selling, but in the unlikely event I did, it would be a factor. Some of the "mystique" of owning a rare game would be somewhat deluted ... but I would still have #93

So, I'm not going to worry about it, and if a remake is made, it has my support... like anybody would care. Smile

Bob S
BBB #93
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Mike Hogue · Joined: 03 Oct 2005 Posts: 3

>How would you feel if Gene was to produce 300 more BBBs?

Kind of all of the above for me too.

My *only* gripe is.......

We all took a chance on the BBB machine when the very vocal crowd said it couldn't / wouldn't be done. If Gene does decide to make more, it just cheapens in a small way the faith that we all put into the original project. Another batch of BBB's would be snatched up in no time. Go ahead, call me selfish, but I like the idea of having one of possibly 200 BBB's in existence.

I just want Gene and IPB to make a profit on all future pin projects..... other than BBB! : )

Mike

CraigC · Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Posts: 209

if i can get into kingpin for $4500 Gene can make all the BBBs he can at $7000.

-c

BBB94 · Joined: 02 Aug 2005 Posts: 407 Location: WI, USA

[quote="Mike Hogue]We all took a chance on the BBB machine when the very vocal crowd said it couldn't / wouldn't be done. If Gene does decide to make more, it just cheapens in a small way the faith that we all put into the original project. Another batch of BBB's would be snatched up in no time. Go ahead, call me selfish, but I like the idea of having one of possibly 200 BBB's in existence.

I just want Gene and IPB to make a profit on all future pin projects..... other than BBB! : )[/quote]
This is pretty much how I feel and I'm all for the good spare parts availability that would come with Kingpin.

greg_888 · Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Posts: 44 Location: Australia

Mike's kinda right we all took a chance.... but then so did IPB,
so shouldn't they have the chance to make up there $ loss

l'm getting a BBB.... how sweet is that Very Happy

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runner1717 · Joined: 02 Aug 2005 Posts: 163 Location: Nebraska

awarner · Joined: 02 Aug 2005 Posts: 558 Location: Atlanta, GA

Gene said at Expo 2004 that if he was to do another run of BBB after the initial 111 games, there would be something changed to distinguish them from this run. His suggestions were chrome side rails or something else.

I'd also like to add that I have NEVER heard him say anything else about a "Second Run" than that comment. He mentioned to me in 2005 that this was the ONLY game he would ever produce. In November, 2006 it was "We're not announcing it yet, but we're thinking of doing KingPin". He told me privately that he really wants to do KingPin.

I was just curious about how people looked at thier game and how they would feel about there being more machines.

-Al-
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Kerry Richard · Joined: 02 Aug 2005 Posts: 101

I voted "Other (explain below)";

I think many put up their money back in 04' on a dark hunch, from many others, who felt this project would only happen "if pigs could fly".

Well, nearly 200 of us stepped up with our cash and trust Gene & Co. would pull off this awesome BBB project.

I personally would be somewhat disappointed if the BBB run went beyond the 183 we all "bought into" over 2 years ago.

I'm very interested King Pin. KP at $7,000 ($6,500 discounted for BBB buyer's) is still great opportunity to purchase a unique very rare & once in a life time game…hopefully Gene & Co. can make some serious $$$ to help with the losses of BBB.

I too would rather see Gene make HUGE $$$ on other projects other than BBB remakes beyond 183.

Kerry Richard #111

BigBangJoe · Joined: 02 Aug 2005 Posts: 134 Location: Gent, Belgium

I don't care how many BBB's would be made extra. Fact is that we paid less than what it cost to make, or we paid the equivalent of a Stern game while receiving a higher quality product. Even if 1000 more BBB's would be produced, you still got a very good deal. Anyone who is complaining about his "investment", should start trading on the stock market or simply go out and work for your money, instead of trying to make a profit on someone else's work.

Making more machines is the best way to let more people enjoy such a marvelous game.

BBB94 · Joined: 02 Aug 2005 Posts: 407 Location: WI, USA

I had a meeting with Gene and the BBB staff Monday night and someone raised the topic of his making more BBBs to help recoup his losses on the project. Gene was pretty emphatic that he would not make any more BBBs. I don't think it was ever about the money on BBB, it was about the dream; about this wonderful game.

awarner · Joined: 02 Aug 2005 Posts: 558 Location: Atlanta, GA

Tim Arnold said it best: "It's about the games, Stupid."

To me, it would be a WHOLE lot easier to make BBBs than Kingpins. If Gene wants the challenge, I'm sure he'll succeed.

I only started this discussion as that, everything I've heard from Gene was that he was done with producing machines, period. Then last November, he mentioned Kingpin. It'll be interesting to hear what he says at Texas.

-Al-
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